Co-host, Lead Counsel Podcast

Lead Counsel: the business side of law that is not taught in law school.

Every week, Tom Tona and I talk about what it takes to run a law firm that doesn't depend on the founder for every decision. Real firms, real problems, and the EOS tools that fix them.

Built for law firm owners who've hit the ceiling

Tom is the founder and managing attorney of TonaLaw. I'm a Professional EOS Implementer who works with growing law firms. Together we cover the business side of running a firm.

If your firm is growing but everything still runs through you, start with episode 169 below. You can also hear me as a guest on other shows. If you want to talk about your own firm, book a free 90-minute session.

Episodes

176
Oct 29, 2026Profit & incentives

Incentives That Drive an Ownership Mindset

Why the discretionary year-end bonus rarely changes behavior, and how a self-funded incentive plan tied to firm-wide profit gets the whole team thinking like owners. We also cover when a firm is ready for it.

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175
Oct 22, 2026 · 48 minAccountability

Mastering Accountability Without Micromanagement

Micromanagement usually means expectations were never clear. We walk through leading versus managing, scorecards and Rocks, the Visionary and Integrator relationship, and how to diagnose and fix an accountability problem.

174
Oct 15, 2026 · 51 minMeetings

How Law Firms Solve Problems Faster: The Level 10 Meeting and IDS

How to turn a weekly status meeting into a problem-solving session: identify the real issue, discuss it, solve it, with clear rules of engagement and enough healthy friction to get honest answers.

Is your firm growing but everything still runs through you?

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173
Oct 8, 2026 · 56 minScorecards

Data-Driven Law Firm Management: Stop Running on Gut Feel

Picking the handful of weekly numbers that tell you what's coming, giving each one an owner, and tying KPIs and financial metrics back to where the firm is headed.

172
Oct 1, 2026 · 53 minPeople

Right Person, Right Seat, Part 2

The Accountability Chart versus the traditional org chart, fixing people issues at the root, and how getting structure right raises what your firm is worth.

171
Sept 24, 2026 · 39 minPeople

Right Person, Right Seat, Part 1

Core values, capacity, and the real cost of keeping the wrong person in a seat. Plus how to let go of someone the firm has outgrown, with respect.

Want your leadership team on the same page about who owns what?

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170
Sept 17, 2026 · 57 minVision

How Clear Vision and Communication Drive Business Success

Getting the vision out of your head and into words the team can repeat, delegating results instead of tasks, and using core values and core focus to keep everyone aligned.

169
Sept 10, 2026 · 55 minStart here

Why Successful Law Firms Hit the Ceiling

What the ceiling looks like from the inside, why simplicity beats complexity, and how accountability charts, scorecards and Level 10 meetings take the owner out of the bottleneck. We also get into burnout, fear, and the relief of seeing the team step up.

157
June 2026 · 47 minIntro to EOS

Scaling the Business of Law with EOS and High-Performance Leadership

My first conversation with Tom: what EOS looks like inside a law firm, and what high-performance leadership means when you're also carrying a caseload.

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Lead Counsel is hosted by Tom Tona and sponsored by TonaLaw.

Guest appearances

As heard on other shows

Conversations with other hosts about my 33 years running a transportation company, what I learned selling it, and how EOS helps owners get out of the bottleneck.

The Show Goes On with Aamir Noorani · Jan 2026 · 40 min

From First Business at 19 to EOS Coach

Buying my first limousine at 19 with a bank loan and a handshake, building it for 33 years, and why the businesses that struggle most are usually chasing the next shiny object.

The Scalability Code with Matt Haney · Nov 2025 · 35 min

Keep It Tight at the Corners: Vision, Focus, and Fast Cars

Why getting the vision out of the owner's head is harder than it sounds, what I see in session rooms with law firms, and what racing small cars taught me about focus.

Ground Transportation Podcast with Ken Lucci · Aug 2025 · 61 min

Life After Limo: From Operator to EOS Implementer

How EOS works from the first 90-minute meeting to graduation, the right person in the wrong seat, and getting the owner off the jobs that keep the business small.

Host a podcast for business owners or law firms? Book me as a guest.